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Old 05-24-10, 10:47 PM   #153
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Steve - that was a repost of our civil war discussion - and I would think that my post above to you makes it clear that I have revised that opinion - in part due to our discussion on the matter.

Slavery was an integral part of the causes of the war. Slavery ties to the economy, which the economic concerns are what propelled the decisions that led to Secession - and thus the war. So its tied in rather heavily, there is no doubt. However, that being said, it does not mean that it was the ONLY issue. There were distinctly other economic issues at work - primarily the north's desire to gain access and ownership of southern resources, the political push of keeping the federal system in place at the costs of states rights (check out the Constitutional Union party), etc. Secession itself - the right to secede - is in fact a states rights issue - and had the states not insisted on exercising that right, the war would not have occured - slavery or not. If they don't try and secede - uhm - who fights who? So to those that claim it was ONLY about slavery, how could the right of a state to secede not been an issue?

Speaking of slavery being made a minor issue:
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It most definitely has
Where? I keep hearing all these accusations - but so far no one has actually shown where the changes do all these horrible things people say they do.

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So you have a group of people who in their own documents proclaim that they have to bring the country back to its Christian roots, but the fact that they don't say that in the curriculum plan means they're not really trying to do that. Do you think anyone who feels the need to control people comes right out and says it. The fact that they believe that should be enough to make anyone sit up and take notice.
And I get accused of jumping to conclusions/wearing tin foil hats....

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This thing is scary, and you want to justify it.
Justify it? I don't have to justify it. They got elected by the people (at least, I assume they did - or are they appointed?) - and they are tasked with a duty. They did that as they saw fit given the positions they hold as public servants. I don't have to justify their actions any more than an Obama supporter has to justify the actions of the president. I don't like alot of his actions - but for those that don't like this - well - better hope your in texas so you can vote these people out if you want - otherwise - you have to accept the fact that they have the legal right to do it - whether you like it or not. Just like the President has the right to go back on his word (yet again) regarding emergency funding requests, among other things. Its the way the system works, and thus it doesn't need justification. I simply was looking to find out where people really had an issue, and so far, it seems to be that they read something in some news article and take it as gospel, instead of looking at the changes and deciding for themselves.
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