[CaptainHaplo]

Steve...

I have listed 3 specific documents that respectively create, govern and then by foreign nation recognize - the United States of America. I have demonstrated how all 3 - predating the current Constitution, show in fact that this nation was founded "under God" - aka with an acknowledgement to the Supreme. What has happened here is the continual attempt to mitigate that fact. You can pass it off as "evangelical" all you want - its still historical fact. First the arguement was that the DoI did not mark the start - aka founding - of the nation. Then it was that well it didn't carry force of law. Then it was well the constitution is the founding document. Now its "well your on a rant " and the "evangelical contention" of a "xtian" nation. Funny how folks make a moving target when the last one gets shot.

Well that is were I guess we diverge. I'm ordained - and it is historical fact that this nation was founded "under God" - but NOT "under the Xtian God". I have stated that repeatedly. The problem here is that everyone wants to equate the two - and they are not the same thing. Because they choose to equate the two, people then go "well we have to take "GOD" out - seperation of church and state and all that. That means that ultimately, you would have to take out the DoI, the Treaty of Paris, the Articles of Confederation, etc - all based on this "seperation" which exists only in a personal letter from Jefferson to a religious association.

So here it is just to clear the air. This nation was founded "under God" - to claim otherwise means your willing to ignore historical documents. This nation was not founded "under the Christian God" - and to claim it was is to misrepresent history - as well as ignore the language of the documents which intentionally use deist terms.

Evangilists that claim a Xtian founding are wrong. Just as those that claim no religious foundations are wrong.

To take this back to the OP - show me where in the history or social studies revisions that the Board of Education in Texas is claiming - IN THE CURRICULUM - that this nation was founded on Judeao-Xtian beliefs, and I will be right there disagreeing with then at your side. However, you have to show me in the actual curriculum - because I have skimmed parts and haven't seen it - and I am not willing to take online news articles as credible sources when the actual material is available. Yes - I am fully aware of what Ms. Dumdum or whatever her name is personally believes. Her personal beliefs don't matter - what matters is the actual changes made to what students are taught. Show me the error in there - and not by reading "God" as "Xtian God" (because if it doesn't say Xtian - it doesn't say Xtian....) or accept the fact that the changes made are historically accurate - though the board may INTEND for the facts to be presented in a skewed way - they are not the ones in the classroom teaching.

The only reason this is a real issue is because of how it will affect the rest of the country. Are people really so scared that the intent of a small group in texas is going to "bleed through" to textbooks in New York, Idaho and elsehwere when the wording is in fact historically accurate? Teachers teach - and if they are decent teachers without an agenda, they will let the facts sit, and let each student come to their own conclusions based off those historical facts.

Or is that what scares so many people?