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Old 05-21-10, 07:20 AM   #34
DarkFish
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My sincere condolences to you!
not needed, I've got no problems with it

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I DO have a problem with the EU overruling local governments, we should decide for ourselves what we want.
But isn't that the essence of socialism? The individual or group subordinating itself for the greater good? What you're saying here doesn't sound very socialistic.
It doesn't necessarily mean we should as a country subordinate ourselves for the greater good. Countries consisting of several peoples and cultures don't work. What is needed/wanted here, might not be needed/wanted somewhere else. The smaller the country (within certain limits), the better the government can suit the needs of the people.
I am pretty nationalistic myself, even though I'm a socialist.
From the official Socialist Party's standpoints (quickly translated):

"European cooperation is definitely needed, but that's something else than a EU that dominates the member countries, and forces regulations that go against the wishes of a majority of the people.
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The role of national parliaments within the EU must thus be enlarged."

Also see: http://international.sp.nl/goals/2006/tenreasons.shtml point 10.

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I don't believe that having more parties automatically increases the peoples control over government, but we have different political systems anyways so what may work for you may not work for us.
If you've got 2 political parties, you've got only very little choice. The more parties there are, the better the chances for a party to suit your wishes. So the more representative of the people the government will be.
This in combination with the fact that we've got no electors. If a party gets 28% of the votes, it gets 28% of the seats. Nothing like one state has more electors per inhabitants than another one, or a "the winner takes it all" system.
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