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Originally Posted by Kapitain
from one of the guys here told me that the german 212 and 214 diesels are quieter than any modern US navy nuke wether thats true i dont know
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modern Diesel electric are ALWAYS quieter than SSN
from a long time now, certainly even before you born.
And that's why there is lots of discussion about this new kind of threat in western HQ.
Even a KILO make less noise than a "modern" nuke, even it's an old diesel/electric plateform now.
And these diesel electrics are really cheaper than nuke.
So, at this time, the main question of nuke owner is : how to counter the proliferation of modernised diesel/electric, so difficult to detect and so efficient for their missions.
With AIP system, these diesel can now stay under water, without snorkeling for weeks, making them nearly indetectable (detectable only with active sonars).
Main constructors and sellers of diesel/electrics are now Germany and France.
India just confirm they bought 6 French Scorpene this week (to counter the Agosta sold -or produced under licence- to pakistan ... by France ...), Chili has receive their first Scorpene 1 month ago.
With time, there is lots of new diesel plateform, far more efficient than previous generation, coming at sea.
"The sub of the poor countries" is becoming now a big part in naval strategy