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Originally Posted by Tribesman
Good , next time some muppet mentions appeasement you can say it wasn't in Britains or Frances interests to stand up for some distant foriegn land.
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If the US pressures another country to ask for help, it's because it is on our interest to do so. If the UK or France elects to help, it is because it is in THEIR interest to do so. That's all I expect. To expect otherwise is to live in a fantasy land. That some bleeding hearts might not think it is in their national interest is beside the point. It might be in the national interest, even if it is NOT on the radar of the populace. The FDR admin wanted to get into the war earlier, but the US public was very isolationist. FDR was right, public opinion was wrong.
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Thats funny, Iran like the crazy fundamentalists in your country views homosexuality as a sickness. Did you know it is a leading nation when it comes to sex change operations to "cure" the "sickness".
Ok fair's fair, the crazy fundamentalists in Iran run the country since they sidelined all the other people in the revolution to put the countryon its "right" path, the crazy fundamentalists in your country just want a revolution to put the country on its "right" path
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You're talking out your ass comparing executing gays to people not wanting the state to use the word "marriage" with their unions. Unlike Iran, the US has a secular government, and an
explicit separation of church and state. Does YOUR country have an explicit separation of church and state, BTW?
Are there Christian fundies who try (and repeatedly fail) to get religion mixed with government? Sure. Would that put us on a path to murdering homosexuals? No. Do they try and get religion in schools? Yes. Is it wrong? Yes—and the courts agree, every single time. People in the US have been just as religious as now, and the Constitution didn't suffer for it. I think it will endure those attempts as it has.
Saying the US views homosexuality as a sickness is flat out absurd. Let's see the polling data on that, please. You must have a source to make such a generalization. I bet you might find a poll at PEW, and US attitudes might very well be surprising to you. A majority of Americans support civil unions, for example. Some monolithic democrat groups oppose gay marriage, too. Note that age plays a huge role, younger people regardless of party don't seem to care about it. The debate seems to focus entirely on the use of the word "marriage." Change it to "civil union" and it passes. The reality is the population at large—and the government—are pretty color-blind on the issue.