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Catfish · 05-03-10, 02:04 AM

Hello Tlamstrike, and Sammi79,

" ... One thing I noticed is that the local fisherman are being trained to help clean this up. They are the ones out setting those booms in the water. ..."

Yes, they certainly need all the help they can get, and small fishing boats are probably well suited for this job, rather than high-boarded freighters. But it is not too difficult to open and close the barrage when ships go in and out, so there will be no real blockade (or so i hope).

" ... I checked Hazegray and the USCG has no ships suitable for containing an oil spill. The EPA has only two ships, one is on the great lakes the other is operated out of MD. So the US has to rely on privately owned ships to clean this up. Several European countries have navy/government owned pollution control vessels, why don't we? ..."

Because this would again raise a storm politically, of how the government interferes in privately owned companies, and "freedom". And this is not a joke. Obama has already opened enough cans of worms, and is often criticized just because of similar actions.
If you compare the events and opinions of the media and industry in the Chicago of 1885, it seems there has not much changed in the US (thinking of Mr. Spiess, and 1st may).

@Sammi79
Thanks for being the first to offer condolences (i wanted to post a "thumbs up" here, but don't think this fits). I have been active in the oil industry, but am only a "specialist" in a very small sector (geologist).
They recently have set a lot of people free (as they call it here), almost all above 40, including me. The gas industry is not doing well or so they say, and certainly has to save money. I see this every time i fill up my tank lol.

To stop the spilling and keep the wellheads for further production will be a tough job. I guess they could shut the wells with explosives, in boreholes near the wells, but this will certainly ruin what's left of the seafloor equipment. Controlling wells in 5000 feet of seawater - completion is ok, but actually working or even repairing down there is complex. And the problem is - as always - the borehole pressure. The sea pressure at the well entry will be at least 160 bar, so the well has already to deliver against that pressure, which may help a bit.

Thanks and greetings
Catfish

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,822 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello Tlamstrike, and Sammi79, " ... One thing I noticed is that the local fisherman are being trained to help clean this up. They are the ones out setting those booms in the water. ..." Yes, they certainly need all the help they can get, and small fishing boats are probably well suited for this job, rather than high-boarded freighters. But it is not too difficult to open and close the barrage when ships go in and out, so there will be no real blockade (or so i hope). " ... I checked Hazegray and the USCG has no ships suitable for containing an oil spill. The EPA has only two ships, one is on the great lakes the other is operated out of MD. So the US has to rely on privately owned ships to clean this up. Several European countries have navy/government owned pollution control vessels, why don't we? ..." Because this would again raise a storm politically, of how the government interferes in privately owned companies, and "freedom". And this is not a joke. Obama has already opened enough cans of worms, and is often criticized just because of similar actions. If you compare the events and opinions of the media and industry in the Chicago of 1885, it seems there has not much changed in the US (thinking of Mr. Spiess, and 1st may). @Sammi79 Thanks for being the first to offer condolences (i wanted to post a "thumbs up" here, but don't think this fits). I have been active in the oil industry, but am only a "specialist" in a very small sector (geologist). They recently have set a lot of people free (as they call it here), almost all above 40, including me. The gas industry is not doing well or so they say, and certainly has to save money. I see this every time i fill up my tank lol. To stop the spilling and keep the wellheads for further production will be a tough job. I guess they could shut the wells with explosives, in boreholes near the wells, but this will certainly ruin what's left of the seafloor equipment. Controlling wells in 5000 feet of seawater - completion is ok, but actually working or even repairing down there is complex. And the problem is - as always - the borehole pressure. The sea pressure at the well entry will be at least 160 bar, so the well has already to deliver against that pressure, which may help a bit. Thanks and greetings Catfish