:hmm: yep i think s***farce toasted my DVD player the other night,luckily i was given another DVD player ,

but i dont think buying new DVD' players is the answer surely if "STARFORCE IS FRYING THESE DVD' players"THEY MUST BE UNDER SOME OBLIGATION TOO REMEDY THIS :rotfl: I will scuttle my sub ,before i buy another dvd player or even SH4 if it ever comes out with starf**t installed on it,it seems the are a lot of software company's have already dumped them, so come on UBI wise up and wake up