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Originally Posted by Skybird
Pragmatically, it all comes down to this: are they (the Iraqis) better off now or worst? - watching at what is going on there day by day, I doubt the answer can be "yes".
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Depends on your viewpoint I guess. The Sunnis might not have it as good as they did under Saddam, but what about the Kurds? Are they still being gassed and shot in wholesale lots? Are Shiites still being given starved, tortured and executed in wholesale lots?
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Theoretically, it all comes down to this: has any of the major pre-war assumptions and declarations of the war-wanting authorities in the West and in the US beeing found to be true? - Quite the opposite.
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The main pre-war assumption was that Saddam was a threat to us. Given his history and his oil money i'd say that assumption was and is an accurate one.
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Historically, it all comes down to this: will the outcome of the war and the post-war history of Iraq and the kind of nation it will become reflect the results (amongst others) that the war had intended to cause? - The difference cannot be bigger.
What it all means? It means that it is too late now to ask the right questions. The messup is done.
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The jury is still out on that, but I must say it's disturbing to see how many of our so called allies are hoping it won't.