[captainprid]

This argument is a little strange to say the least and I am struggling to fathom out the arguments.

In the first instance we are playing a simulator that represents basically the murder of innocents by a fascist regime but yet people are complaining that it glorifies the Nazi state, that is irony at its best.
It is important that games like this are framed in an historical context and that means including in the game why the U-Boats were there after all.

I would think National Socialism is abhorrent to pretty much everyone who plays and enjoys this game as well as the contributors of this forum but nevertheless, it was a fact. Freedom of expression and the fight to maintain that freedom was the reason that so many people died; to dismiss imagery and blatant facts as racsist and then try to ban them for that reason goes against everything people fought for.

If the lessons of history are forgotten then they will repeats themselves over and over again.

I understand the point that the last screen I posted blatantly glorifies Nazi Germany but it is set in an historical context, it is not promoting National Socialism at all. To a lesser extent, in SHIII the band playing at the quayside could be considered to be glorifying the boats march to war or much of the dialogue conducted with the flotilla chief in SHV could be considered the same.

The bigger issue here is the fact that Nazi symbolism is banned in many European countries, frankly that is their affair, in England it is not illegal say or display anything which would interfere with freedom of expression short of inciting racial hatred. Quite frankly the Nazi's and for that matter the communists were scum, most totalitarian regimes are. They murder and butcher innocents for their own twisted ideals but the reason we fight is so people can say what they please, so they can be free to choose.

I may not agree with what you say but I will defend with my life you're right to say it