[STEED]

Originally Posted by Egan

@Steed. I'm not a massive fan of an unelected second chamber filled with people whose only qualifcation is that they were born into it either, but given the behavior of the Commons over the last couple of years I'm loathe to remove anything that checks their actions even if it's only a tiny amount. I'm with you on Mandelson, though. I'd have him walk from Land End to John O Groats wearing a sandwich board which says 'I am a corrupt, lying bastard' while neds throw stones at him.

Problem is the House of Lords has no real power, yes it can reject the Green paper and send it back to the Commons and delay it and so on but the government can in the end say up yours its going to be a White paper by bulldozing it though.