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Skybird · 03-28-10, 03:41 AM

Stress disorders developing in "normal" life conditions, tolerance towards stress in the office, in partnership, etc, are one thing. And yes, character's individual vulnerability level for stress is being influenced by the individual's past.

War, natural disaster, autobahn and train crashes, torture, genocide - that are some completely different things. Forget that amateur psychology statement of screening people for finding out who starts crying when. You can eventually train that vulnerability, like you also can train to withstand higher physical pain levels. But you cannot say in advance how somebody will react if he arrives at the scene of a plane crash and a hundred bodies lay shreddered on the ground. This silent whimp, as you have seen him, may show a strength you would not have expected, never, and emerges afterwards stronger than before. That monument of a man who always seemed to be in control and had natural authority, may break down afterwards. You cannot screen that in advance.

Because it is not just coping strategies with stress at the office.

Only one thing is certain. Everybody has his breaking point. EVERYBODY. For some it comes earlier, for some later.

The 25% sticks in my mind. It depends on what you read where. Some count with 20%, others with 30% and more. Numbers also are not reliable, since you miss all those cases who leave the military, develope a syndrome, but never see a doctor, or the military doctor. They hide, and fall silent. then there is the number of PTSD patients who get misdiagnosed with something else, and get treated wrong over years, at their own cost although the defence ministry would be responsible if it is a consequence of their service in the military/war. So, 25% is not far fetched at all. And that means what Haplo has concluded correctly, and what I said earlier, years ago, too: the Iraq war's casualties in killed and wounded must be counted in hundreds of thousands on American side. Do not trust the official numbers on PTSD from the defence ministry, they have no interest at all to let the public have a realistic impression of the size of the problem. It not only would cost reputation, but also much, much money. The press has shown many cases over the past years where veterans suffering from PTSD got combat-related PTSD talked out of their diagnosis, so that the Pentagon did not need to accept social responsibility and spend money on these people.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,816 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Stress disorders developing in "normal" life conditions, tolerance towards stress in the office, in partnership, etc, are one thing. And yes, character's individual vulnerability level for stress is being influenced by the individual's past. War, natural disaster, autobahn and train crashes, torture, genocide - that are some completely different things. Forget that amateur psychology statement of screening people for finding out who starts crying when. You can eventually train that vulnerability, like you also can train to withstand higher physical pain levels. But you cannot say in advance how somebody will react if he arrives at the scene of a plane crash and a hundred bodies lay shreddered on the ground. This silent whimp, as you have seen him, may show a strength you would not have expected, never, and emerges afterwards stronger than before. That monument of a man who always seemed to be in control and had natural authority, may break down afterwards. You cannot screen that in advance. Because it is not just coping strategies with stress at the office. Only one thing is certain. Everybody has his breaking point. EVERYBODY. For some it comes earlier, for some later. The 25% sticks in my mind. It depends on what you read where. Some count with 20%, others with 30% and more. Numbers also are not reliable, since you miss all those cases who leave the military, develope a syndrome, but never see a doctor, or the military doctor. They hide, and fall silent. then there is the number of PTSD patients who get misdiagnosed with something else, and get treated wrong over years, at their own cost although the defence ministry would be responsible if it is a consequence of their service in the military/war. So, 25% is not far fetched at all. And that means what Haplo has concluded correctly, and what I said earlier, years ago, too: the Iraq war's casualties in killed and wounded must be counted in hundreds of thousands on American side. Do not trust the official numbers on PTSD from the defence ministry, they have no interest at all to let the public have a realistic impression of the size of the problem. It not only would cost reputation, but also much, much money. The press has shown many cases over the past years where veterans suffering from PTSD got combat-related PTSD talked out of their diagnosis, so that the Pentagon did not need to accept social responsibility and spend money on these people. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.