Ok I see your point on the firing up the engines thing. But I mean I popped it with at least 3 definite torp hits, no listing no real indication I hit it at all. I popped up shot like 30 deck gun shots into the water line at like 700 yards. And It didnt even turn its turrets towards me. You cant argue it didnt know where I was deck gun has pretty decent muzzle flash.
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