[scrapser]

I don't have it so I'm not voting. But from all that I've read here at Subsim, at the official site's forum, at other sim forums, and at Amazon...I would say the title is unfinished. I know this is not what you would want to hear but really, imagine asking an art critic to judge a painting or sculpture that is only 75% complete.

I am also wondering how many more times a submarine simulation will be released that only becomes satisfactory after it has been modded considerably? In other words, the stock product is a failure to anyone who bought the title specifically for the submarine simulation experience. It's one thing to mod a game (just as many people like to put aftermarket parts on their car) but with these simulations the mods are there to fix things as often if not more than to enhance. This is really deplorable in my opinion.

It's happened enough times now that I think it's reasonable to say the company (Ubisoft) is counting on the modders to make the simulation right at their own expense. It's no longer by accident. If you believe that you are kidding yourselves.