You can pick up a copy of SH4 with the add on for 10 or 15 bucks... I like SH4 and there are a ton of kick ass mods for it. If you prefer uboats though, try to find a cheap copy on Amazon or something. SH5 will frustrate you sooooo bad. You cant steer the boat like you would think!!! You have to spend 'Morale points' just to get your crew to do their jobs!!! This game is not in a good place right now and probably wont be for another 6 months. Even so the modders, who are working for free, are gonna polish it. Maybe that was Ubi's plan either way its terrible right now and certainly not a 'sub sim'.
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