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Originally Posted by Schroeder
I actually wonder then where all those people come from who hardly speak German and are living of well fare here.... Obviously it wasn't that tough to become German...
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I can think of
a) foreigners who are married to a German, “sham marriages” (fictitious) included
b) “guest-workers”, people Germany invited to work in Germany in the past for reasons of shortage of manpower, and their offspring. What, they don’t leave the country again? This comes unexpected.
c) illegal aliens.
Illegal aliens:
Remember the Yugoslav wars when you could see Serbs, Croatians, Kosovo Albanians, Bosnians, and Montenegrenians burning their Yugoslavian passports live on TV?
As a result of the war we have something like 387.000 de-facto-refugees in Germany.
Their permission to stay is limited to an “exceptional leave to remain” (Duldung).
In the past, we did not send them back to the war zone for humanitarian reasons. Their deportations were stayed for a period of time.
Today, each and every alien file gets reviewed. Some of these refugees have gained a right of residence because they are long-timers who have managed to integrate themselves into German society: they earn a living on their own, speak some German, their kids are enrooted in Germany (“rootedness”), but most important: they no longer depend on welfare aid.
Those, who we refuse a right of residence, we are trying to deport.
Here comes the problem: Because they burned their Yugoslavian passports to celebrate their cause, people no longer have valid proof of their identity. Many times it turns out that it is impossible to get a new papers, because the native country officials claim, that they have never heard of that person. That way the de-facto refugee becomes a stateless person.
We can’t get rid of him because no other country wants him and so we have to keep him.
Now, it is time to kill the cat:
Guantanamo.
IMO it could turn out that the USofA made a big mistake with their illegal practise of hijacking “terrorists” from other nations to detain them in Guantanamo. Those who are political responsible for it probably did not think enough or did not care about the possible consequences.
You have to hijack the person and his passport.
President Obama had promised to close Guantanamo.
But how do you get rid of the suspected terrorists? Their home countries not really want to have them back and will pretend they don’t know them, especially because they are labelled as “trouble-makers” which was the reason to detain them, was not it?
It will be interesting to see how the US is going to solve this home-made problem of importing suspected terrorists.
My guess is, that others countries will take some of those prisoners whom they are convinced were detained by mistake, as a humanitarian act. For the rest, the US will probably have to pay money to other countries the get rid of them (bribe them).
What does it all have to do with Greece?
Nothing, but they are short of money, so why not ask them to take over prisoners?
So, to answer your question, Schroeder, I think it is safe to say that those people were not hijacked by aliens and secretly brought into Germany.