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Originally Posted by John Channing
Some of the comments here remind me of the old definition of a consultant...
A person who can tell you 300 ways to make love to a woman, but has never had a girlfriend.
Or put another way, some people never let their lack of knowledge keep them from forming and expressing an opinion.
JCC
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A fine excuse for always buying blindly without asking before. Salesmen must love you!
Are you one yourself, maybe?
My God, what a Kindergarden.
I wonder why I do not read printed PC-mags anymore - maybe because the reviews there are also very tame and never ask critical questions, showing the light, but only rarely the shadow.
Or is it that feedback of every player/owner who reported about some small or not so small things in DW in past month necessarily must have been wrong - wrong because not beeing totally enthusiastic about it ?
Before someone thinks he must carry on directly or indirectly pointing finger at me for my "bashinh of SA" or critizising the going of DW (both never took place), this is my original answer in this thread, beyond which I had no intention to write anything, if I wouldn't have been personally confronted with some critizism that had not too much to do with my original text, I print it in full length so that noone can say he is overcharged in seaching it himself:
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"Let's face it, DW is very much a niche-product, and the already narrow niche it occupies is made even smaller by the fact that SC is still popular and played by not a few. For those players amongst these that hold a primary interest, or a more or less exclusive interest, in subs only (like myself), DW does not add so much that goes beyond SC. I never was interested in Destroyer Command, for example, and my interest in the Perry in DW is existant, but small for that reason. The helo and the Orion doesn't attract me at all. What is left for me is an additional new sub, and a refining of the general submarine simulation elements - i hope. Also, since half a year now we wait for the announced (final?) patch, they mentioned their reasons while it lasts so long, these reasons are understandable, but their reasons is their business, not their potential customer's business. A final condition of the game that needs no more patches still could make me ordering it. But currently, for the reasons I explained, I just can ask: why should I buy now, in advance of a final patch? I am beyond the age where I like to constantly patch a thing that I fully payed for. And what about data base edits, like the weapons data fix by Amizaur et. al. that came out some days ago? It sounded very interesting, but it probably will need to be redone with patch 1.02. But that kind of hobby, constantly dancing with my installation, is something that I am not so much interesed in as well. Falcon was enough
I think they made just some sort of miscalculation when estimating how big the general interest for a multi-platform sim of this complexity would be. some months ago (I vaguely remember that I mentioned it back then), I described the sim to some friends and people, and their initial medium interest immediately dropped when I mentioned the 500+ pages manual and the complexity. These guys usually play sims like Falcon, Flanker, IL2 and Steel Beasts, very much like myself. Complexity and thick manuals also attract flightsim lovers in general, but the interest for subs is significantly less, and fans of this matter are not as often to be met. This community here may not like it, since it is "the core" of sub-simulation-fans, but this community cannot compare in size to the fans of complex flightsims, I think by far it can not. So the bitter truth probably is that the market for a sim like DW wasn't as big as expected from the very beginning, and SC from the beginning was in still too strong rivalry to it, decreasing it's chances even further.
I personally am about to run out of patience, and interest, the wait for the final patching slowly but constantly reaches the time odyssey I remember from SC, and even if this is the kind they usually do their business - it is not the style of working that I >>>as a paying customer<<< can find satisfying - not for that price.
I am not so sure that more adverts and promoting would have changed the general sale numbers so much for the better. People that I ask about it, and told about it, usually had heared of DW. Potential customers do know that the game can be bought, and many also know battlefront.com. It seems they simply have not as much general interest to buy DW, for whatever their reasons are.
In shorter words: maybe Sonalysts went to the wrong party, and also brought the wrong music with them, and now they wonder why they find it difficult to find as many partners for dancing as they expected.
This thread is not meant as rethorical bashing by me, I just explain the situation as sober and fact-oriented as possible. Since I have not invested any money so far, I am at complete peace with Sonalyst. I prefer it this way, compared to the year I was highly busy with SC. When that final patch came out, frustration had already brought down what was left of my interest in S"
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Anyone else, or could we leave it to that now...? Almost the whole second page of this thread has been unnecessary.