Well if this is a joke i'd seriously start buying some decent 'how to tell good jokes' books because this has to be the worst ive EVER heard.
Its pretty clear Mr Wolf you dislike people from the north of England,and let me say the feeling would be mutual regarding people south of the border (dont get me started on this!) ,not all but most
In the meantime,thanks for the help on my original question

Sorry to the rest who may have wanted to help.
I have used subsim for a while now and had some interesting moments in here,but this has to be the first time i've got caught up in heated debate about Sheffield.You ought to pay a visit sometime,the scenery is fantastic,you can find a decent boozer almost anywhere,and we do the finest knuckle sandwich in the land for those looking for one

(no,I dont smoke)
(end of rant...hopefully)