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Originally Posted by Heretic

Every new bit of information about this game is pounced on by people gleefully picking every nit and smugly predicting SH5 a total failure because it doesn't address their pet issue to their satisfaction. I swear, some people are going to actually be disappointed if the game doesn't suck! Not to mention the DRM freakout. No one has seen anything other than descriptions of unfinished previews and they're ready to write it off. Talk about cutting of your nose to spite your face!

I don't know of anyone who is writing this game off. There is a small contingent of people who are choosing to use their freedom of choice not to purchase this game while it has this specific type of DRM. These people are not hoping for SH5 to fail, they are hoping for Ubi to decide to get rid of this form of DRM.

Others on this forum have expressed desires, opinions, concerns, and fears concerning SH5, but I have not read any comments where anyone is wishing SH5 were to fail. In fact, many of us are worried that SH5 may fail and we are not happy with it.

Do you not understand what's at stake? This is likely the best we're ever going to get. There is never going to be a sub sim made for us. It's too expensive and the market is too small. The best we can hope for is a game aimed at the mass market that, underneath, has the realism our community can bring out with mods. Everything I see about this game screams 'potential'. Yeah, it's got a simplified interface, but it has to to bring new people into our hobby. Without new people, our hobby dies.

Thats all well and good for the new people who will be experiencing their first Sub Sim game. But we, the more experienced subsimers, are also part of the community. Sure we want to attract new players, but we want to attract new players who want a high realism simulator, not just any new player. Ubi may only be interested in any new player ( short term $$$).

Suppose one were to take any sport like basketball. It is a highly skilled game. Suppose we all here were experienced basketball players. Suddenly one of the sports equipment manufactures wanted to expand the customer base for basketball and decided to make basket ball hoops that were five times bigger around and only 6 feet off the ground. This to encourage new customers who have never played basketball or tried in the past and found it too difficult. How would you feel about this, as an experienced basketball player? You would probably say, no thanks, what that is is not basketball.

That is how some of us feel about SH5. We like the intellectual stimulation of the simulation, not just the graphic stimulation. Ubi is to blame for this for it was Ubi who choose not to release information about aspects of the game that would appeal to the more experienced sim lover but chose to release information about aspects of the game that would appeal to more graphic eye candy motivated players.

You are right, the game is not out yet. All we have to go on is what Ubi chooses to tell us. If Ubi chooses not to release specific aspects of the game that interest us, we, as only human, will base our initial impressions on what we know about the game. It is not fair, nor is it logical, but it is human.

I'm convinced 'our game' is in there, underneath that 'ease of use' layer, if for no other reason than that it's built on SHIII/IV. They didn't throw away their code and start over.

I'm not saying everyone should be a mindless cheerleader and buy the game no matter what, but for God's sake, if SH5 fails, the franchise is quite likely finished. And with that, this hobby, that means so much to us, is DEAD.

We should not be mindless cheerleaders, nor should we be opinion-less customers either. This is, after all, an internet chat forum where people are empowered to post their opinions. Even if SH5 fails, it does not mean the franchise is dead. The SH franchise was not dead after SH2. And there is more to game design than Ubi. I think it is a bit dramatic to declare that SH5 is our last hope.



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