[Sailor Steve]

That's the problem I have. I'm not and never have been a gamer. I play a lot of so-called 'games', but every one of them is genre-related. I play tabletop wargames with friends because we're interested in the same subjects and we talk about the reality while we're playing and afterwards at dinner.

I never got into the 'U-boats vs Fleet boats' arguments except to comment that I like submarines and they all fascinate me. That said, while I didn't ask to have crew standing around in SH3 I have grown to like them, and I've grown to like the additional crew at battle stations in SH4, and I kind of like the way things are looking in SH5. But I would gladly go back to having none of that if someone would just make everything work the way it's supposed to.

That hasn't happened yet, and it's looking like it may not be happening here either. I like what I consider to be immersion, but that comes mostly with sound rather than sight. I love the graphics, but they aren't the core of the sim.