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Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

Whats the use? Whats the use?!?!? All the Nancies here wanted to have a drama play out in the sub instead of a REAL simulator that is the use and the reason it is there. Now we have it. Hope you all like it cause your stuck with it.

Rant OFF> Trying not to do this. Turning over new leaf. Happy thoughts...happy thoughts...

Well, what you obviously didn't figured out is that lots of people wanted BOTH! and that BOTH could be achieved, and not taking 4 years of dev! Given the fact that in previous SH, kinda every subsim ground was cover... The critical things, regarding this issue, was to improve and tweak it (ships physics and behaviour, AI, damage reparais, control over each engines independantly, compressed air and etc.).

Where I share your concerns, is that apparently, the later was once again left behind in this case, for the sake of the drama depictation this time (which I like and hoped very much though).
Still, it doesn't mean atmosphere was to be left behind for SH5.