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Skybird · 01-16-10, 06:04 PM

You cannot ensure the system functioning properly, Respenus. As you said, the commission is decided on by the national governments' heads, and they have an own interest to design it such that it serves their interest. But this interest is not the interest of their national voters at home, but party interests, lobby interests, power interests.

Thinking your way, RTespenusk, it would be needed to demand that national poltical leaders, the EU commission, I say: the Eu parliamnet, and the Harzog says: the EU courts' judges to act against their own selfish interests. how much they are willing to do that we have seen with the Eu constitution and the dictate of Lisbon.

We need a cooperating europe. Indeed. But not the kind of Europe the EU is shaping since 10 or 15 years. This is no benefit for the european idea, as Herzog writes and I have said often myself. It is a worst case scenartio for preventing the Eurpopean idea. It alienates the european people, establishes a centralised tyranny, and renders terms like "meaningful elections" and "freedom" totally meaningless.

Herzig is spot on then attacking the EU for being over-regulatory, and reuglating things for all nations becasue of an event or issue of interest in one regional location of one state only. The EU also abuses it's power to bypass the sovereignity of national parliaments, which means: national elections MEAN NOTHING anymore. It uses it'S centralised and never legitmised power to enforce policies that are againstt eh will of the majority of EU citizens, but are reflecting the desire of lobbyists and social experimentators trying to enforce their views that are not rsults of perceiving realities, but are ideological constructions that are engaged in trench warfare against common sense and healthy reason.

I see no chance for reapirs to the EU. the damage is too great, the will is not there, and interest groups are too powerful as if they must accept the limitation of their power. We have seen it with the Lisbon dictate, but we see it happening every day in EU legislation and the influence economic lobbies have to tailor major, vital laws by their own ideas. The EU is not about health yreason, and needs, but is about politcal correctness and getting 27 commissioners under one hat, each of them wanting to reinvent the whell to leave a historic mark by his country.

The EU - is a bureaucratic obscenity that exists for one purpose only: to invent a plethora of bureaucratic rules by which it wants to justify it's own existence.

It deserves our full-hearted disgust. All what the European idea that emerged after WWII once has been about - the EU is not, and never can be again.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You cannot ensure the system functioning properly, Respenus. As you said, the commission is decided on by the national governments' heads, and they have an own interest to design it such that it serves their interest. But this interest is not the interest of their national voters at home, but party interests, lobby interests, power interests. Thinking your way, RTespenusk, it would be needed to demand that national poltical leaders, the EU commission, I say: the Eu parliamnet, and the Harzog says: the EU courts' judges to act against their own selfish interests. how much they are willing to do that we have seen with the Eu constitution and the dictate of Lisbon. We need a cooperating europe. Indeed. But not the kind of Europe the EU is shaping since 10 or 15 years. This is no benefit for the european idea, as Herzog writes and I have said often myself. It is a worst case scenartio for preventing the Eurpopean idea. It alienates the european people, establishes a centralised tyranny, and renders terms like "meaningful elections" and "freedom" totally meaningless. Herzig is spot on then attacking the EU for being over-regulatory, and reuglating things for all nations becasue of an event or issue of interest in one regional location of one state only. The EU also abuses it's power to bypass the sovereignity of national parliaments, which means: national elections MEAN NOTHING anymore. It uses it'S centralised and never legitmised power to enforce policies that are againstt eh will of the majority of EU citizens, but are reflecting the desire of lobbyists and social experimentators trying to enforce their views that are not rsults of perceiving realities, but are ideological constructions that are engaged in trench warfare against common sense and healthy reason. I see no chance for reapirs to the EU. the damage is too great, the will is not there, and interest groups are too powerful as if they must accept the limitation of their power. We have seen it with the Lisbon dictate, but we see it happening every day in EU legislation and the influence economic lobbies have to tailor major, vital laws by their own ideas. The EU is not about health yreason, and needs, but is about politcal correctness and getting 27 commissioners under one hat, each of them wanting to reinvent the whell to leave a historic mark by his country. The EU - is a bureaucratic obscenity that exists for one purpose only: to invent a plethora of bureaucratic rules by which it wants to justify it's own existence. It deserves our full-hearted disgust. All what the European idea that emerged after WWII once has been about - the EU is not, and never can be again. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.