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Originally Posted by Mouseketeer
Just to name one Luftwaffe expert: Erich Hartmann  , almost all of fighters aces of WW II say that you need tho be very close to enemy to shoot at him effectively.
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This is a very interesting argument but is slightly OT, so I ask your pardon if I reply again to mouseketeer:
one of those "snipers" was Marseille, he was very close to the enemy plane. Hartmann was on the oriental front and had to be very close to enemy plane, because they had strong armors: IL2 Sturmovik. Not only very close, but "under" their tails (no armors on the inferior surfaces). But the other german aces and normal pilots got their kills at normal distances (from about 200 to 800m). Also, they used to avoid turn fighting preferring boom&zoom tactics.