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Donkey-Shot11 · 12-28-09, 12:24 PM

Getting an accurate range, speed and angle on the bow using only visual aids takes a lot off skill and experience.

Reading and writing down the information gathered takes only one skill: litteracy!
I can imagine that crew qaulity might have dropped a bit as the war dragged on.
But I don't think the Kreigsmarine dropped the ability to read and write from the list of crew requirements.

For the guy making a plot on the plotting table, the folling basic skills are needed:
- he needs to be able to hear the bearing and range the captain/XO calls out
- he needs to be able to write this information down
- he needs to be able to draw said info on the plot table

Not exactly rocket science, is it? From there he should easily be able to make a plot. It's something I learned when I was 16 and I learned it one afternoon.
No amount of fatigue or inexperience should render him: deaf, blind and unable to hold a pen, ruler and a set of compasses.

I think it's reasonable to assume that, since the guy is on the boat, he had training and he actualy passed his exams.
And if I, as bearly interested 16 year old, was able to learn to plot on a plotting table in one afternoon; I think it's reasonable to expect a fully trained and qualified u-boot crewmember would be able to do the same, if not a hell of lot better.

I raised this point in an earlier post, I don't remember wich one, and got the comment "well, they didn't have radar, so accurate ranging was impossible".
That's right, they didn't have radar. They did have a stadimeter and, this is where experience does kick in, they had a good seamans eye.

So, with the info gather by the captain (you) or your XO, the assigned crewmember should be able to easily make an accurate plot with the info you gathered for him.
Natuarly it follows that: if you got the range and/or (a hell of a lot less likely) the bearing wrong, the plot won't be worth much either.

Just my two cents. By the way, I rather liked the way the map was updated in 688i, you mess up your readings, the maps gonna give an accurate representation of your screw up.

12-28-09, 12:24 PM	#10
Donkey-Shot11 Watch Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 26 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Getting an accurate range, speed and angle on the bow using only visual aids takes a lot off skill and experience. Reading and writing down the information gathered takes only one skill: litteracy! I can imagine that crew qaulity might have dropped a bit as the war dragged on. But I don't think the Kreigsmarine dropped the ability to read and write from the list of crew requirements. For the guy making a plot on the plotting table, the folling basic skills are needed: - he needs to be able to hear the bearing and range the captain/XO calls out - he needs to be able to write this information down - he needs to be able to draw said info on the plot table Not exactly rocket science, is it? From there he should easily be able to make a plot. It's something I learned when I was 16 and I learned it one afternoon. No amount of fatigue or inexperience should render him: deaf, blind and unable to hold a pen, ruler and a set of compasses. I think it's reasonable to assume that, since the guy is on the boat, he had training and he actualy passed his exams. And if I, as bearly interested 16 year old, was able to learn to plot on a plotting table in one afternoon; I think it's reasonable to expect a fully trained and qualified u-boot crewmember would be able to do the same, if not a hell of lot better. I raised this point in an earlier post, I don't remember wich one, and got the comment "well, they didn't have radar, so accurate ranging was impossible". That's right, they didn't have radar. They did have a stadimeter and, this is where experience does kick in, they had a good seamans eye. So, with the info gather by the captain (you) or your XO, the assigned crewmember should be able to easily make an accurate plot with the info you gathered for him. Natuarly it follows that: if you got the range and/or (a hell of a lot less likely) the bearing wrong, the plot won't be worth much either. Just my two cents. By the way, I rather liked the way the map was updated in 688i, you mess up your readings, the maps gonna give an accurate representation of your screw up.