[Skybird]

Free market, your celebrated ones, are what has polluted out planet, Lance.

Free market'S economies are the pkayers sending lobbyists to manipulate politicians - that kind of manipoulation you blame politicians for.

It's exactly like I said. You see two devils dancing, but one you call a devil, and the other a saint. God may know why you do that, I do not. I think you are too fixiated on ideology in your thinking, and reject realities over it, wanting to have more of the old recipes that have brought us right to where we are. All you get by that is just this: more power to economic tycoons and monopolists. And both are not about free markets, don't be mistaken about that. capitalism is not driven by the desire to form free markets, but is driven by the desire to prevent them, and deny newcomers equal chances at the starting line. This is what means maximum profit, not to allow as many rivals as possible. Monopolism is the most natural - and only real - attractor of capitalism. Your more romanticised image of it only works in small communities where everybody knows everybody else and feel personally related to him, and every member iof the community sees all the community's propserity and possessions dirctly, so that everybody directly sees how anyone's deeds directly influence these ressouces for the worse or the better. Take away these preconditions and you have the ruling of greed and envy and egoism and monopolism. You cannot avoid it.