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Originally Posted by Skybird
Books, data, other material from research - all that exists, too, and you belitteling it will not make it go away, Neal. Better try o differ between the populstic stuff, and the more reaosonable stuff, and then have some reading about the latter, Neal, it won't hurt you. But ignorance will. To say "It's all just paper and media, and thus you only believe what they tell you to believe", is another way to say "Leave me alone, I do not want to check my own position." There is better literature than newspapers, you know.  If your attitude is "don't trust the media", then I have sympathy for that, but my advise is not to stop reading, but stop watching every TV news show, and most of what is on the internet. Be a critical reader, then, raise your standards. If you do, the stuff presented by "sceptics" is the stuff you will reject first.
Have you checked the photos of glaciers I linked to two days ago? It's things like that you have to explain. Or the ever rapidly disappearing arctic ice. You have to explain how it comes that species that in the past did not survive in once moderate and cold climate zones in the past, now can, and move into them, while others that cannot move and are sensible to raising temepratures, die.
the important thing simply is this. Whether you believe it is man-made or not, the climate becomes warmer, you can climb on a piano and make stand on your head and wave your hat and yell "Texans don't believe in GW" and sing your anthem backwards - but that does not change it. The question is: how do we deal with the changes that climate change will bring - whether we are prepared for them or not.
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I'm always amazed at how you turn any discussion, on any topic, into a "I read a million books and you should too, so you won't be ignorant, but be an expert like me".

When I said what you read in the papers and hear on TV from "experts", please understand that carries over to all the books you have time to read on the subject, as well as the numerous ice berg photos.
The global climate changes, I know that. It may becoming warmer, but so what? It could just as likely be a typical cycle, as has been occuring since the dawn of creation. I certainly wonder why these climate scientists are massaging the data to prove their point.
Now, as usual, over to you for the last word.