[Skybird]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

I can't believe this. The same guy who thinks the morality of war can be compared to that of a game of chess is now getting his knickers in a right old twist over a photo shoot, and how it "profanes the death of 6 million people"! I agree the shoot was in bad taste, but I marvel at your priorities, Skybird.

Mind to link to the source of where I compared the ethics of war, or lack of, to that of a match of chess? I said a lot of tough things about war and that I see many ethical concerns as self-contradictions once war is there, but comparing ethics of war to that of chess I cannot remember, because I do not see what chess has to do with ethics. Maybe I have comopared tactics and strategy.

And that post about class and sensibility bordered on flame bait, even though I agree with what you were basically saying.

So you agreed to something that you see as flame-baiting, making you agreeing with flame baiting itself. Which is illustrating an interesting attitude, but okay, that is not my beer.

I certainly do not see it as flame-baiting what I said. And I still think that tolerating the profaning of 6 million deaths for the sake of commercial advertising - or wanting to debate why that is a profaning - as something that shows a stunning lack of sensibility and moral class in the person in question.

If you would go to a funeral, at the grave lower your pants and piss onto the coffin, you would be in severe legal trouble. Without any debate about whether what you did was within the standards of tact and morals, or not. Whether or not you understand what it is about, would not be of interest, but you would be held legally responsible for your offense. Even if you think it was harmless, or funny.

I also find it extremely difficult to imagine you go to the holocaust memorial at Berlin and do not know where you are and what it is about. That is like visiting Yad Vashem and thinking of it as a warming room for homeless people.

Not that I care much for both places. But if you think you must go there, then behave yourself and follow the general rules of piety. I do not believe somebody going to such a place and then claiming to not know where he is. When he is behaving in an offending, ridiculing, minimising manner, it therefore is intentional. And that's why I think those shooting the advertisment campaign at the Stelenfeld, really deserve a spanking. they considered it to be an interesting motive and made use of it in explicit disregard for the meaning of that place. I am sure they knew in full what they were doing.