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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
Don't get all worked up about it, Plat. It's just amusing to watch what they have to say, due to them having to face the facts which they don't much care for lol. And the fact is, the bill is going to pass in the end. 
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Something's probably going to pass in the end. But guaranteed, it ain't going to be a liberal's wet dream. And it's going to be a taxpayer's nightmare. You know, the people who actually grow and sustain the private sector, and make the economy work. There's a whole lot of crap in this legislation. And still many hurdles to get through.
Bottom line. This healthcare bill has simply turned into a "pass anything at all costs, even if it sucks" for Democrats in Congress and Obama.
The fact that these Democrats have to advance this crap late on Saturdays when everyone is asleep on the East Coast or out doing weekend stuff, and the media cycles for the week are over is only a reflection on how liberals (Democrats) think of representative government. They don't like it or respect it. They intend to do this under the radar and out of sight. Pathetic.
My thinking at this point...the Democrats are a joke. They're utterly worthless. Pass anything despite it being crap, and the fact that most people in this country don't want it shows that the Democrats at this point are clueless. This country now has unemployment at 10.5% and growing, and we have a situation in Afghanistan not being seriously looked at by the administration, and these i-dots are working this issue??!!? Most people are concerned about the economy and don't give a wit about this legislation.
Anyway, the independents are leaving Democrats. And rightly so. One of the issues Republicans lost their majority for was out of control spending, and the Democrats will lose theirs for the same reason. Mostly because Democrats have shown themselves to be a whole lot worse since January. And they're aloof on every single other issue of importance. Don't think it won't be any different. They'll pass an expensive crap bill...you're probably right. But it will not help Democrats keep their majority. Especially since it will cost upfront and no so-called "benefits" are expected until 2013. If people are spending more, and don't see any improvement, or see problems which is almost a guarantee, Democrats will pay the price.