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Originally Posted by SteamWake
After all we had just been attacked on our own soil by terror... Im sorry a 'man made disastor'.
The mindset at the time was to protect ourselves from letting something like that happening again.
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I don't disagree, and it seemed reasonable at the time. And iirc, a lot of these measures were initiated by the administration - not only by laws.But I to me some of the measures simply overshot the mark (either in their extent, or in their duration) - as I said, I'm not an American, and I probably only have a vague idea of how the terrorism of 9/11 (I don't mind calling a spade a spade) affected US citizens emotionally.
The 2004 elections show that the majority believed Bush was right back then, and the people who praised Obama in 2008 could well have done the same four years earlier with Kerry if they really wanted to get rid of Bush. I like Obama and I didn't like Bush, but they're only politicians (and probably not very exceptional ones at that). Neither one of them is worth the effort of getting at each other's throat (not targeted at you or anyone here; I'm just thinking of the Bush = Hitler / Obama = Messiah bs).
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Originally Posted by SteamWake
Frankly these 'massive restrictions' did not effect me personally at all. Then again I have nothing to hide.
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Yes, but the question isn't only: What do you have to hide? But also: What do you have to show?
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Originally Posted by SteamWake
But homeland security is not the main issue here. The issue is the intrusion of federal goverment into the private sector.
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Yes I see, but as I said, there has been massive government intrusion before, only on a different level. It boils down once again to the question of what the government should and shouldn't do I guess.
Sometimes I regret that I wasn't signed up in the Bush years already
But I think I'm spent for now
Edit: Seems like Stealth Hunter has already said what I posted just now
But hey, I already had a beer
