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Originally Posted by Aramike
First off, just because one is in the vicinity of an event occuring, it in no way means that person knows what they are talking about.
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Though the same can be said for a person who is not in the vicinity of an event occurring. Indeed moreso.
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Originally Posted by Aramike
Secondly, you're clearly taking the very short-sighted view. Did you bother to consider what actions brought to bear the economic pressures that caused the people in Eastern Germany and the USSR to be susceptible to this type of revolution? Sure, those people did the legwork - legwork that wouldn't have been possible had the USSR not spent itself into oblivion.
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The thing that killed the Russians in the end was indeed tied into the economic side of things, but not on the part of the United States. Or the Western World for that matter. The USSR killed itself in the end. Blundering military escapades in the Middle East, production and job problems, central planning issues, and a general desire among the people to switch over to a more Democratic Republican form of government, combined with the fact that it was just too massive to manage without incurring serious problems from present problems. Again, it was like the Roman Empire: too big, too many differences among the people in terms of politics, too many problems with trade, finances, and the economy, and too much money with nothing to do with it (or at least implement it effectively).
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Originally Posted by Aramike
And finally, yes - the West (the US specifically) won the Cold War. It's over, and of its two main participants, the Cold War claimed the existance of one, while the other remains standing tall.
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What are you talking about? The Cold War didn't just end willy-nilly when Communist Russia died. You forget that it was about Communism as a whole, containing it and eradicating it from the face of the Earth. And that was an appalling failure on the part of the United States (and West in general). Cuba's still Communist, China is now a major superpower (bigger than us in terms of population, military strength, and production to name a few things off a long list), Vietnam didn't change any after the United States pulled out of the war (other than becoming a key player in the list of Communist states), and North Korea isn't getting along too well right now with South Korea.
Tall... lol. Yet people all over (here alone) are chiming in that the Health Care Reform bill will bring about the death of the United States as we know it; at least they're quick to remember and return to reality that our economy is in shambles, we're borrowing money from China, our job situation (while it has improved) is still pitiful, and we're still fighting (and losing) a war in the Middle East on two fronts. Seems rather foolishly bold to say "tall".
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Originally Posted by Aramike
That would be victory, friend.
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I wonder if the Chinese were reading this how they'd be reacting right now. Probably laughing their asses off. Can't blame them.
