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NFunky · 10-30-09, 03:51 PM

I believe that RA includes shipwrecks as sub entities, but I don't remember stock or LwAmi having any. I would be interested in how the AI would handle hostile and neutral MAD contacts practically on top of eachother.

I agree that in most cases, sonar would be the primary method of sub hunting. However, in a place like the Persian Gulf, if I set the bottom type to sand, a Kilo at 2 kts or less is basically undetectable by sonar (buoy or dipping). This is why I was thinking about using several aircraft with MAD to search the Strait of Hormuz. The strait is not very large and a fixed wing aircraft can sweep a good amount of water with MAD in a relatively short time.

I was trying to think tactically from the POV of an Iranian Kilo. The U.S. and other gulf states would have a good number of airborne ASW in the area, P-3s and helos, maybe an old S-2 or something. Iran would most probably use their Kilos for covert minelaying rather than direct action, but either way they would be detected before they could complete their missions. I've run a few test scenarios and it seems that there is no real way for a Kilo driver to remain undetected if there are more than two aircraft doing low altitude sweep searches with MAD.

10-30-09, 03:51 PM	#10
NFunky Machinist's Mate Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 127 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I believe that RA includes shipwrecks as sub entities, but I don't remember stock or LwAmi having any. I would be interested in how the AI would handle hostile and neutral MAD contacts practically on top of eachother. I agree that in most cases, sonar would be the primary method of sub hunting. However, in a place like the Persian Gulf, if I set the bottom type to sand, a Kilo at 2 kts or less is basically undetectable by sonar (buoy or dipping). This is why I was thinking about using several aircraft with MAD to search the Strait of Hormuz. The strait is not very large and a fixed wing aircraft can sweep a good amount of water with MAD in a relatively short time. I was trying to think tactically from the POV of an Iranian Kilo. The U.S. and other gulf states would have a good number of airborne ASW in the area, P-3s and helos, maybe an old S-2 or something. Iran would most probably use their Kilos for covert minelaying rather than direct action, but either way they would be detected before they could complete their missions. I've run a few test scenarios and it seems that there is no real way for a Kilo driver to remain undetected if there are more than two aircraft doing low altitude sweep searches with MAD.