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Old 10-28-09, 03:00 AM   #15
Aramike
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Religion has far too much to do with it. I was at a youth group meeting a couple years ago when the youth pastor started reading off a few situations that could have warranted an abortion, and probably would have. After reading all of these situations, we were told that if we agreed with the abortions, that we have killed quite a few prominent members of society. One was Jesus. Beethoven, Stevie wonder I think was there too.
I consider that a "shock tactic" and a truly worthless campaign. I know the Bible says it's wrong. I get it.
Those are typical religious scare tactics. However, I think you're mistaken to gloss over the point as a whole based solely about the ad hominem aspect of it. I frankly don't completely agree with the point this youth pastor was making (hell, I bet I could find reasons that some of the most brutal figures throughout history would/could have been aborted), but I do think it's worth examination.
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Look at our rapidly expanding world population. Is it truly worth bringing another child into this world, with the way it's turning out? Besides, for every one abortion there's bound to be a woman giving birth to sextuplets anyhow. We are getting far too crowded into too many places, in America, in Europe, in Africa. Everywhere. Disease is commonly transferred among children. Get all the shots you want, there's going to be a new epidemic tomorrow. Most abortions are among people who come from low-profit households. You can bet that they are filled with grief over it. The few young women I know who had abortions vowed to be abstinent. All is not lost. But I mentioned low-profit households because the majority of the mothers-to-be will have their entire academic lives ruined because of it. Notice what I'm saying? Human expansion. There's too much of it. And it's not helping our economy.

Yes, there are dead fetuses. The doctors don't like it and the mothers-to-be sure as heck don't. But on a worldwide scale we are merely a speck of dust. Stop touting statistics and look at the big picture. 60,000 abortions don't matter when there's 60,001 kids being born at the exact same time.

Is this making sense to anybody or am I just babbling at this point?
While I understand what you're getting at, I can't buy into any of it. This concept of "human life=so what?" is disturbing to me.

The people who harp repeatedly on overpopulation always gloss over two very important things: First, the Earth can not, by nature, support more human beings that it can support. That's would violate the first fundamental law of logic. Secondly, technology is always increasing the amount of human beings that the earth can support.

We're not going to see disasterous overpopulation because it is impossible. If the earth can't support 10 billion people, for instance, the difference between that number and what the earth CAN support will perish.

But see, my point is simple: ultimately, we fail ourselves as a species (philosophically speaking) when we start attributing a value to any human life due to its perceived burden upon our resources. When we start saying that we don't need these babies, because other babies MAY have to sacrifice something, we open a very nasty door. At one point do we say the same about the handicapped? The unskilled? A culture which we just don't like?
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