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Norman Polmar of The Naval Institute and Robert Hutchinson of Janes Fighting Ships disagree with you.
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he aint the only one mate i know exactly how much an oscar II SSGN displaces norman polmar has probly never even stepped foot inside a modern russian submarine for a start id doubt he would even get as far as the front gates all he does is go to the submarine vetrens club in st petersburg and is fed the information.
now i have a folder that is way over 700 pages in length detailing every bit of the oscar II class SSGN from things like the size of the torpedo tubes to what reactors it uses (which isnt classified how they work is ) (oscar II SSGN uses OK-650B reactors)
in that folder every bit of information detailing wieght and displacement all totals 24,000 tonnes i know what im talking about as i said earlier ive been there seen it ect i get annoyed that people seem to think that its some thing diffrent because officals state it
24,000 tonnes is listed in many online sites but i dont get my information from there it comes from people in the know ie the people who work on the dam thing all they tell me is the little bits bits they can tell me like displacement ect because its not classified
uss gudgon i belive it was an old diesel submarine was forced to the surface by russian destroyers after it wsa found to be inside russian waters the russians let out a small depth charge attack (with grenades) and trapping the submarine under the water for 36 hours finaly forcing her to surface
if this was a naval exercise you can bank on the fact the russians would have boarded the vessel and taken the crew prisioner as they did with american pilots did they not so a submarine crew would be a great prize.
now america doesnt officaly go into russian waters (but we all know they do) the same thing can happen and by international law the russians can capture a vessel and imprision its crew if it resisted then it can be attacked
back in the iraq war in 2003 royal navy sailors in a rigid raider we captured by iran forces and taken prisioner there is no diffrence
its a violation to violate terratorial waters it can be seen as a hostile intent
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Once again, officers are not non-coms. Perhaps you need to do some more research.
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in terms of theroy work they are the equal in terms of the practical there a bit behind but not far behind only about 5 or so years i know russians train at colleges i have russians at my college so you cant realy tell me that they dont exisit when i speak to them nearly every day [/quote]