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Old 10-20-09, 10:07 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo View Post
Thanks. I do think liberals look at it as "why can't we do for everyone" and think its not so much about lacking personal responsibility, but instead see it as a noble goal. It is. But nobility does not equate to practicality.
Yes, Haplo. I don't disagree with your thoughts. In terms of people seeing this process as a "noble goal"...you speak of the classic "do-gooder" liberal. In my opinion, these people simply want to feel good about themselves. And they feel they can do this by micro-managing other people's lives, and being generous with other people's property. Sometimes I'm not sure if they actually want to help anybody, as they never seem to care about the poor results that often happens when their "vision" is implemented. Nor do they give a hoot for personal freedom or personal choice. They just feel they know what's best for everyone. And they are flat clueless. They couldn't actually know what the needs of each individual is. Also, these people never put accountability on those on the receiving end of their so called "generosity". I guess that's easy, since they're voting away the property of total strangers.

But the other side of the coin Haplo is the liberal who talks a big game, but is simply interested in alleviating their own personal responsibility. They simply want others to pay for part of their existence. Hell, they feel owed and entitled. These types do exist. And unfortunately, the "do-gooder" has a symbiotic relationship with these types. They feed off eachother. And it has proven to be economically ruinous to this nation.

In terms of Christianity, it was never the intention of Christ to make people dependant on the vices of any government. And as you said, he wasn't here to assume the throne and cure all injustices. Christ was concerned for the soul of mankind. And man's free choice to serve his fellow man. The soul cannot do this by force of any government. Christ is greater than the state. Therefore, empowering government at the expense of personal liberty simply corrupts this vision IMO. "Assisting" others with other people's stuff at the voting booth is not generosity. In the end, I don't begrudge the TRULY poor from seeking assistance. Yet, there has to be an end to the ambitions of the so called "do-gooders". The deficit generating (bloated/government run) healthcare ambition in this country breaks the limit. And if there are no limits, than we have no freedom at all. Nor do we have individual liberty or freedom of choice. This is called tyranny from where I come from.

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