[CaptainHaplo]

Sea Demon,

Thanks. I do think liberals look at it as "why can't we do for everyone" and think its not so much about lacking personal responsibility, but instead see it as a noble goal. It is. But nobility does not equate to practicality. Liberals often miss how many would abuse a system instead of using it as needed. They see the forest - but they can't see which trees are rotted on the inside. They think "forest management" without considering each sapling, shrub, blade of grass or weed.

There is nothing wrong with a noble purpose, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Intentions are ideas. They sound good alot more often than they actually work.

They also fail to realize that government paying for things costs someone else. Its just like the promise of the US President. He said that he wouldn't raise taxes on anyone making under a certain amount. Unfortunately, that isn't possible if your going to deliver more than what can be bought with what you have.

Lastly, they do not comprehend that others can disagree with their noble ideals without being petty, selfish, racist, or whatever the term of the day is.

Regarding your stance on christianity and its directives regarding government, the bible teaches respect for authority, be it government, church, or elders. However, Jesus himself worked within the system of government that existed at the time to promote change.

Slavery is one of those that gets brought up alot to me, because many think Jesus tacitly condoned it. However, remember that Jesus stated he was not here to "destroy" (or change) the world, he was here to save it. A follower of jesus who sat at his feet would not keep slaves. But he was not here to take the throne and correct all injustice. Just as Jesus did to work within the system to bring about change, so do many who are against universal health care, making their voices heard but doing no violence.