[Aramike]

This one's fun:

Wow... That's very conservitive of you.

Yet I'm not.

Want to know my positions or have you already figured them out?

This can also be said a conservitive viewpoint.

Actually, it's more of a viewpoint mirroring what most unbiased, thinking people would think, in my opinion.

Sincewhen is winning a majority of the House and Senate as well as the White House NOT considered a mandate? The Republicans lost the last election in a big way, partially due to the fact they "can't play well with others".

Do you know what is considered a "mandate"? Hint: it's not having a majority in anything - it's having a large majority of the ELECTORATE on your side.

Really, that point couldn't have been serious...

Amazing since I was told "If you aren't with us. you are against us and for the Taliban" numerous times. 5 years ago you oppose policy, you were a traitor to America.

And what was your party's defense to that? Oh yeah: dissent is patriotic.

Really, its pretty idiotic to argue against something that you complained was bad for your side but is not acceptable for the same people so long as it is an idictment of the other side. All that does is invalidate your original complaint.

Besides, I was adamantly against people who characterized dissent as such, but I guess as the typical liberal you can't discern between intellectual honesty and "you must be against and therefore a Republican".

Is it a conscious decision to be that ignorant or does it come naturally?

Now it's patriotic as long as you stoop to calling the leader of the free world a "liar" and a "nazi"; things that if was done 5 years ago you would be called un-patriotic.

Please link your indignation to Bush being called a Nazi.

Furthermore, anyone saying that about either side is an idiot. My original point wasn't about the extremists ... but I guess for someone like you it must be far easier to characterize it as such so you can have something to argue against.

I have called a "commie" by the other side many times and told to go to Canada... sour grapes.

Seriously, I can't stop laughing.

You just demonstated the liberal moral standard SO clearly that it surpasses comedic levels.

Let's see - you're justifying your side's behavior by saying the other side did the same thing?

After mentioning the "Nazi" example, do you REALLY want to get into that?

The funny thing about morality is that, no matter who does what, your verdict on it will be the same. Yet, you flat out practically state that it is okay that your side does it because you believe the other side did.

Too bad your density prevails all the while suggesting that, through your own logic, it is okay that the other side does it, because your side clearly has no problem doing it. Logically, that means that the first side to do it isn't wrong in doing so.

Moral equivalency is a bitch, isn't it?

Try making a counter-point at a town hall meeting where you are constantly being interrupted by the "free-birthers" and the pro health industry people. Hard to do when you are constantly shouted down when you try to speak (which is by the way anti-democratic).

Really? This is a town hall meeting?

I thought this was a bulletin board where we had free reign to post our opinions however we liked, and there's really no way for anyone to shout us down!

Oops.

I guess because some forums of discourse are deemed as unruly, we should all act like idiots in all forums.

Oh, and I was at several town hall meetings. Most had periods of outburst but were fairly well-controlled for both sides (and I'm pro-universal healthcare). What about you? Any experience at town halls other than YouTube?

Nothing personal, but for someone that seems to have viewpoints similar to the poster, you seem very bitter and have trouble showing it.

Nothing personal, but I despise ad hominem attacks. And, I despise hypocrisy in intellectual debates (as your post has in abundance). Anyone that engages in either aren't really worth paying attention to, I don't care what side it's from (I've been critical of both sides, just look at my responses to CasteBravo).

Look, extremist ideas are bad enough and easily dismissed. No one in their right mind will argue for a flat earth, for instance.

But saying that universal healthcare is bad - or good - (or any other debate for that matter), is stupid if its on the sole basis that you believe that people who disagree with you are just wrong. That's just idiotic.

Make a point, respect the other, or hold your damned peace.