[Skybird]

SB neither said that a true democracy is to be overthrown by public disobedience, nor did he say that a nuclear arms-free ME justifies civilian casualties.

What SB indeed said in a completely different thread was that a de facto tyranny of lobbies and political parties that

- put their own interest over that of state reason, and over the interest of the nation and the people,
- and that illegitimately claim to be a democracy, but is anything but that,
- and that makes policies no longer in fulfillment of the voter's demands but - if opportune for party interests - in explicit violation of voter's demand:

that such a tyranny cannot be changed by voting, since it does not obey the vote, and thus can only be get rid of by civil disobedience and riots against this corrupt very system.

And what SB also said in this actual thread now was that loosing it's nuclear shield for Israel is as threatening to its very existence as if one would call for Israel's "deconstruction", with Israel having a very pressing (and growing) problem with the Arabian population inside Israel that always must be considered in any form of conflict Israel needs to fight to the outside, and that is putting Israel under growing internal demographic pressure (the declared intention of the Palestinians, btw.). Evcery military planners needs to take into account the chance of a growing Arab community rioting and uprising and threatening Israel from within, and as a matter of fact Israeli stretegists and defence analysts constantly do take that into account and reserve forces for that case indeed.

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You do not damage me by your intentional misquoting of what I said in the past, Letum, nor do you devalue what I really said and meant when you try tactics like this. By choice of and accepting such methods you only damage your own reputation.