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Skybird · 10-05-09, 05:52 AM

"Some people more prone to getting injured" you said, Mothball. This study says the probabilty of armed people getting shot is found to be more than four times as big than for unarmed people. Note that the comparing case groups are almost the same size, between 650 and 700, but the "armed" group has had almost five times as many people shot down.

They reasons you gave for that, greater attraction by the attacker, may be right, and if they meet resisrtance in a situation where they did not expect it, it may also lead to short circuits in their behavior and - bamm, there you go. But these reasons do not change anything. They have been dealt with in social psychology for quite some time (when is aggressive behavior by a defender successful, and when is it provoking even more aggressiveness by the attacker). But the basic problem remains.

If that study is robust, it says that you run greater risks of getting shot when you own a weapon, and indeed, the author recommend at the end that people should reconsider the possession of firearms as a self-defensive means. according to this statistical finding, it is absolutely counterproductive.

10-05-09, 05:52 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,710 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"Some people more prone to getting injured" you said, Mothball. This study says the probabilty of armed people getting shot is found to be more than four times as big than for unarmed people. Note that the comparing case groups are almost the same size, between 650 and 700, but the "armed" group has had almost five times as many people shot down. They reasons you gave for that, greater attraction by the attacker, may be right, and if they meet resisrtance in a situation where they did not expect it, it may also lead to short circuits in their behavior and - bamm, there you go. But these reasons do not change anything. They have been dealt with in social psychology for quite some time (when is aggressive behavior by a defender successful, and when is it provoking even more aggressiveness by the attacker). But the basic problem remains. If that study is robust, it says that you run greater risks of getting shot when you own a weapon, and indeed, the author recommend at the end that people should reconsider the possession of firearms as a self-defensive means. according to this statistical finding, it is absolutely counterproductive. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.