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Originally Posted by Skybird
Well, kids abused for religious or political propaganda always is disturbing. Even if they get absued in the name of christian sectarianism or conservative politics.
I wonder why we haven't complained about that earlier!? 
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We have. Literally thousands of legal suits, complaints, and censures have been filed over the years to prevent schoolchildren from being forced, encouraged, or even exposed to things like the pledge of allegiance, Christmas, prayer, and even some conservative philosophical views.
And they worked, for the most part.
I don't really have a problem with it, other than that the state runs the schools to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
I don't see what the problem with this is. I can remember going to singing programs for my nephew years back where they had 4th of July songs about the presidents (from Washington to the current one of the time; Clinton and yes- Bush), the government, Constitution, country, you get the picture. Mountains out of... well- flat plains. People try and stir stuff up like this all the time, about even smaller things. Why just look at his "stay in school" speech that he gave a few weeks ago and how people like Beck, O'Reilly, and their fans reacted. Rather predictable and boring. 
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What's funny isn't how much conservatives whine about this sort of thing, it's how often they are ignored. Certainly, we have our share of ridiculous claims and silly concerns, just as the left does, but the state and the media generally ignore us no matter what we're going on about.
It may not seem like this little song is a big deal to some, and perhaps it isn't, but it certainly shouldn't be ignored. What we have here is a group of schoolchildren singing the praises of a politician who is
currently in office. It is compulsory national state-funded glorification of the national state, and that is not acceptable in a nation like the US. I don't even like the idea of children being taught to praise or honor past presidents in state schools. It causes them to equate the federal state with goodness, and this country was founded upon the very principle that the federal state was bad thing. Even worse, they are singing the praises of a president who is, by his own admission, a statist, who represents a statist party, that pursues a statist agenda. Conservatives aren't necessarily upset over
just this song, a lot of us are upset about the fact that the state runs the schools, and this is an indicator of state abuse of that power.