SUBSIM Radio Room Forums - View Single Post - WWII started today, Here is what ex Presidental candidate Buchanon writes about it.

CaptainHaplo · 09-02-09, 06:02 AM

Once again people make fun of something simply because it goes against "established" or "accepted" wisdom. Just like the "discussion" of global warming, its not about the actual facts, its about running anyone who doesn't agree with a specific view into the ground as some nutcase. While I know its shocking to some, and beyond thought for others, the historical FACTS are accurate. Hitler did not want war- at the time.

What the reproduced post fails to mention is that Hitler EXPECTED Great Britain and France to back down, as they had done repeatedly in the past. He miscalculated, thinking they would continue to appease his demands. It is FACT that after the war started, he made repeated overtures for peace. Someone that WANTS war doesn't try to make the shooting stop.

The facts are that Germany was wholly unprepared to fight a long term war that involved sea power, as any war with GB would. If you know your history, you know Donitz was unpleasantly suprised by the outbreak of WW2.

The Z plan, as it was known, anticipated war with GB in 1945, and was designed to put German naval forces on a footing to win such a war within that time frame.

Now, its also fair to point out that the wording of the demand to Hitler to remove his forces from Poland gave him an option to back off and stop war. He simply thought it was more blustering, and he was wrong.

To say that Hitler did not want to conquer Europe is not true. He simply wanted to do it in a way that cost less to his regime. Wise leadership by Churchill led to putting a stop to that before Hitler was truly prepared.

Also, its important to note that the claim that "we would all be speaking German" if WW2 had not happened is ludicrous. Taking an island in the Pacific is different than invading a continent when your supply lines are stretched over an ocean.

Hitler wanted war - he after all planned on one, but not in 1939. Those are historical FACTS. Just because you have a beef with the person, doesn't give you license to ignore the reality of history.

09-02-09, 06:02 AM	#8
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Once again people make fun of something simply because it goes against "established" or "accepted" wisdom. Just like the "discussion" of global warming, its not about the actual facts, its about running anyone who doesn't agree with a specific view into the ground as some nutcase. While I know its shocking to some, and beyond thought for others, the historical FACTS are accurate. Hitler did not want war- at the time. What the reproduced post fails to mention is that Hitler EXPECTED Great Britain and France to back down, as they had done repeatedly in the past. He miscalculated, thinking they would continue to appease his demands. It is FACT that after the war started, he made repeated overtures for peace. Someone that WANTS war doesn't try to make the shooting stop. The facts are that Germany was wholly unprepared to fight a long term war that involved sea power, as any war with GB would. If you know your history, you know Donitz was unpleasantly suprised by the outbreak of WW2. The Z plan, as it was known, anticipated war with GB in 1945, and was designed to put German naval forces on a footing to win such a war within that time frame. Now, its also fair to point out that the wording of the demand to Hitler to remove his forces from Poland gave him an option to back off and stop war. He simply thought it was more blustering, and he was wrong. To say that Hitler did not want to conquer Europe is not true. He simply wanted to do it in a way that cost less to his regime. Wise leadership by Churchill led to putting a stop to that before Hitler was truly prepared. Also, its important to note that the claim that "we would all be speaking German" if WW2 had not happened is ludicrous. Taking an island in the Pacific is different than invading a continent when your supply lines are stretched over an ocean. Hitler wanted war - he after all planned on one, but not in 1939. Those are historical FACTS. Just because you have a beef with the person, doesn't give you license to ignore the reality of history. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo