I have nothing more to add than what has already been said, yes just to support XabbaRus, I have them in my study and I must say, I am more satisfied with energy saving bulbs than with ordinary ones. Since they are on during the dark months at least 8 hours a day if not more, they do the job perfectly. The last time I checked, I wasn't a fathom either, so I guess it does come down to each individual if he likes the new bulbs or not.
I agree about the ELU though and I'm getting more pissed off by the day.
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