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Originally Posted by tomhugill
If this was distributed as a program which altered the exe automaticly , rather than an exe its self would that be ok?
Also making the analogy between adding acouple of lines of code to an exe and vandalising your house is not one that hold true at all. Ubi arnt forced to distribute this or use it , it doesnt affect them. This is more like some offering theyre services to slightly improve your house for free.
Im sure that using encoded models from other ubi products (ie sh3) would be a greater offence than this. As your obtaining a part of the game that you havnt paid for. Where as this is replacing something that everythign who has bought the game has.
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It would be OK to alter the exe that you bought with permission from the publisher. Just as it is OK to paint my house with my permission.
Actually, Ubi owns the software that resides on your machine. Altering their product necessarily affects them. They have the right to determine the fate of their property, not us. We can offer and they can accept or not, but we do not have the right to decide what is right or wrong in this.
It is possible that they would also object to transportation of objects from game to game, especially outside the Ubi family of games, or from a game you do not own. There has been extensive discussion on Subsim as to whether that is permissable. Dan has weighed into some of those threads and not expressed any problem with it. However, at any time, Ubi can reverse their earlier decision and prohibit modding their game, putting mod sites out of business.
Ubi designed this game and intended for modding to take place. But it is still their call what the boundaries are. As people who benefit from their having created the game I believe it is just common respect, when extending the boundaries of what modding has been so far, to ask Ubi if they think it is proper. Your first question would be one of the first important questions to ask.
I stand behind my inflammatory language, including looter, vandal, biting the hand that feeds us, etc. It is the height of impudence to interfere with property of another in any way, including enhancing it at your expense, without respecting their opinion. We can only mod because Ubi produces a game we willingly paid our money to use.
They produced it in a moddable state, and they can produce unmoddable games easily in the future. Dan has already warned that they were very close to a decision not to allow modding in the future.
Why do we have to feel entitled to automatically use or alter someone else's property? I'll proudly say we have no such right and take whatever abuse comes my way. I take the abuse as validation of my position, so fire away. A sense of entitlement accompanies all wrongdoing.
Ubi has earned, with the money we voluntarily paid, the the sole and absolute right to determine, reasonably or unreasonably, the rules for using their product. They have to power to enforce their position and there's nothing we can do about it. Shouldn't that engender a bit of caution?