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Old 08-23-09, 11:01 PM   #66
Letum
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Every sovereign country could or could have allow(ed) torture if it wanted to.

If the fact that the CIA can, and do use it is evidence that it is effective,
isn't the fact that other countries could and don't evidence to the contrary?


I don't think that either the former or the latter are good evidence either way,
but if you want to use one, then the other must be accounted for.
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