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Originally Posted by SteamWake
How old is she? Is she in good health?
Its her right to not carry health care it is available if she wanted it.
Under the proposed plan you have no 'rights' you pay into the plan (if your working) regardless of age, health, nationality, etc.
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I also have to ask....does she have a cell phone? What kind of car does she drive? Is she financing it? Cable TV plan? Satellite TV? You get what I'm driving at? If healthcare is so damn important to these people, they better not have any kind of luxuries before they fund a healthplan for themselves. Otherwise I don't want to hear the sob stories.
And Steamwake, your last statement is why I think those who choose private health insurance should be able to opt out completely from any government plan including funding it. The government option would force people to pay twice.
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Originally Posted by Max2147
I've never seen a study that showed anything else, and I come from a family of doctors. That article was actually more optimistic about our system than I'm used to hearing. The article said that we spend twice as much per capita on health for worse results. The numbers I usually hear are three to five times as much per capita, again for worse results.
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Just doesn't jibe from experience. My daughter's orthopedic surgeon and our family practice physician would both certainly give you an earful though about government run health and the problems with it.
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You get that anywhere. Even in a European-style single-payer system you're free to buy a private plan. Very few people do so because the government system works well.
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OK. Like I said, have your European style "single payer" healthcare. And you and others like you pay for it. Those who opt out shouldn't fund it as they are already paying health insurance premiums for themselves through private plans. That's the only way it wouldn't infringe on people who want choice in health care. You couldn't convince me otherwise. Your healthcare is your responsibility Max...not mine, not the government's, and not the taxpayer's.