[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Her healthcare is not my responsibility. It's hers. I'm assuming she's a grown adult. Your own healthcare is your own responsibility. I simply don't want to pay for your health needs.

If you've got insurance, you're already paying for others' healthcare.

I don't have kids and I don't like paying taxes to fund schools. My house hasn't burned down and I don't like paying taxes to fund the fire department. Right on man, I'm with you! Solidarity!

I've got my own healthcare to pay for,

No, you don't. Your insurance picks up most of the tab, and that's paid for by other people.

What Obama and other idealist Democrats want in healthcare is totally unworkable.

Except it works in every other modernized country. We rank dead last in healthcare, according to multiple studies.

Seriously, ask how many Americans are willing to give up our health care system for the government model.

The pollsters already did, and most Americans are in favor of it. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/he...cy/21poll.html

Only people who refuse to take responsibility for themselves and choose to pass their bills onto other taxpayers will think "free healthcare" is a reality. Ultimately, Obamacare will not yield good results. I don't care if you get it. Just leave me out of it. Totally.

So you're fine paying more than anyone in the world for healthcare while millions don't have it. When someone says "hey we can pay less and cover more people if we make these changes" you throw a fit saying that people need to pay for their own self? Guess what? You're already paying for people who don't have healthcare. The only difference is that there are people that want those dollars spent more wisely.

You remind me of the story of Joe Conservative:

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republicans would still be sitting in the dark.)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home. He turns on a radio talk show, the host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.) Joe agrees: "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I'm a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."