[Skybird]

Every freedom has limits. It must have limits, else the one's freedom is practiced at the cost of the freedom of the other. A freedom of practicing religion does not mean that you have a right to do it in a way or to foster religious ideas where you limit or harass others not wishing to need to take care for or note of your practicing. This is often overseen, and this is where Islam takes is claim from that it shall not be opposed, for it just practices it's teaching (that happen to include being dominant), and that also is where people camp when claiming a right of free religious practicing in order to impose christian values and ideas onto state and society and public life and public education.

This is by Ulysses Grant:

"Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and the private schools, supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the church and the state forever separated."

Or as I used to say: keep thy religion to thyself. Practice how you want but make sure you do not demand other needing to take care of it or taking note of it or must chnage their life becasue of you, not to mention job and business and public offices. Your religion is your private business, and nobody elses. Your relation to your deity/ies is an issue between you and him/her/them, and nobody else than you should need to care for it. But where you claim your religion is such that you must be public and must missionise and must actively try to spread your faith, you are a nuisance for others, and I reserve the right to use whatever measurements needed (even violance, if that is what it takes) to throw you back and show you your place, for your rights are not more precious than my right not to be affected by your faith. My (and other people'S) right to live free and non-caring for your faith is a thousand times more precious and humane and valuable than your faith could ever be - whatever it is that you believe. that is true if you are muslim. that is true if you are Christian. That is true if you are Jewish. That is true if you are areligious and/or atheist.


Believe what you want, but practice it in your privatesphere only, do not demand others to step back just so that you can have more freedoms than the others who should sacrifice their freedom for the sake of your religion. You bring cults and reilgious practices into the game - you are responsible to remove them again. It's called originator principle (at least in german...).

there are two ways to watch TV in your flat and listen to music in your appartement: with a volume setting that does not irritate others - or with sound being too loud. In the case of the latter, it is not the others who need to accept it. It is you who need to decrease the volume and stop behaving like a ?"%!$#?. But if you listejhn to it with modest settings and I must not listen to it in my own flat whenever you want, it is not my business and I couldn't care less for what kind of music you listen to, and how often, and I will leave you perfectly alone, and you can listen to your music all day long if you wish to do that.