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Old 06-22-09, 04:44 AM   #147
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Originally Posted by CastleBravo View Post
One example of realpolitik is the amount of time it took Mr. Obama to come to any semblence of support for those protesting the election in Iran. His first instinct was to appease, and apologize, and when he found that the vast majority of Americans wanted him to say more than just 'present' he suddenly finds a voice, however fec/kless.

PS I would not be at all suprised if it wasn't Europe which moved him to speak. Mr. Obama has surrounded himself with so many yes men and sychophants to feed his pathological need for approval it makes ones head spin.
I don't agree. Obama has this strange idea that it could be possible in the future to negotiate with Iran an abandoning of it'S nuclear program, the military part of it. He thinks he helps in that when talking less rethorically aggressive with them, and to them. He did not want to risk this outcome by intefering with the current events in Iran too much. On the other hand he thinks that something has to be said about it, and that it should not be completely ignored. Some days ago, in a reaction by him, you saw him formulating extremely carefully, pausing a lot, and you could see on his face that he was weighing every words before speaking it out. that way he just gave an impression of going one step ahead, one step back.

That's all nice and well and reasonable and wellmeant. It's just that this reason is not shared by the other side, and that Iran, no matter the president, has not the smallest intention to ever give up it's goal to get nuclear weapons. As long as you hold these negotiations and have no means to hold a weapoin at their sleeves, they will not give up, and just will try to win time. That'S why Obama will fail with his Iran policy, and it probably will not be the only field where it is like this. Obama is an idealist thinking people are driven by reason, and humanism (although he also is a power politician, because you do not make it into his office and kick several rivals out of your way and survive the Washington shark pool without being a powerpolitician with the will to also act unscrupellous, where needed).

Carter thought the same idealistic way, Carter also is an idealist. In this characteristic, both men remind me of each other. And I would not be surprised if the Republicans again start an intrigue and conspirate with the enemies of the nation to overthrow this president like they did with Carter.

Politics is dirty down to the bones. It holds no place for perfect knights in shining armour. the best you can hope for is a tyrant who means it well with you. But many do not, and prioritise their own power interests over everything else - Reagan no exception.
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