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The key word here is "asks." There's nothing wrong with ATF asking to see people's guns, even if they don't have a warrant.
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Agreed.
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Now, if they demand to see the guns and threaten the owner with arrest if they fail to comply, then there's a violation of rights if they don't have a warrant.
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This is what the article is saying
allegedly happened.
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But I don't see that in this case.
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we may never find out the truth, however reading the article it
appears that at least one individual was threatened with action by an officer.
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The NRA letter mentions one case of an overzealous agent apparently getting a bit hot under the collar, but I don't think one case should be seen as a trend.
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again I agree,
however - the minute the agent puts his badge on in the morning before work - he becomes a professional and a representative of the United States Government's bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. regardless of whether or not it is a one time offense or a trend - it is reckless, irresponsible, and unprofessional.
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It's pretty clear what the ATF is trying to do here - catch smugglers who are illegally smuggling weapons into Mexico. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Agreed as well... i don't think anyone here thinks it is wrong to try to catch wrong doers - but there is a process used for catching the bad guys - it should be strictly adhered to.
if you wish to cooperate with the ATF on this issue - good for you.
if you do NOT wish to cooperate with the ATF thats fine too.
but you shouldn't be strong armed over the latter decision.