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Max2147 · 06-21-09, 09:12 PM

The key word here is "asks." There's nothing wrong with ATF asking to see people's guns, even if they don't have a warrant.

Now, if they demand to see the guns and threaten the owner with arrest if they fail to comply, then there's a violation of rights if they don't have a warrant. But I don't see that in this case. Reading that letter, I get the impression that the gun owner is perfectly free to give the answer that GoldenRivet gave in Reply #3.

The NRA letter mentions one case of an overzealous agent apparently getting a bit hot under the collar, but I don't think one case should be seen as a trend.

It's pretty clear what the ATF is trying to do here - catch smugglers who are illegally smuggling weapons into Mexico. I don't see anything wrong with that.

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Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The key word here is "asks." There's nothing wrong with ATF asking to see people's guns, even if they don't have a warrant. Now, if they demand to see the guns and threaten the owner with arrest if they fail to comply, then there's a violation of rights if they don't have a warrant. But I don't see that in this case. Reading that letter, I get the impression that the gun owner is perfectly free to give the answer that GoldenRivet gave in Reply #3. The NRA letter mentions one case of an overzealous agent apparently getting a bit hot under the collar, but I don't think one case should be seen as a trend. It's pretty clear what the ATF is trying to do here - catch smugglers who are illegally smuggling weapons into Mexico. I don't see anything wrong with that.