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Old 06-19-09, 04:47 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Max2147 View Post
Most of the controversial parts of it expired, didn't they?

Either way, the Patriot Act alone wasn't that bad. It had channels in it for complains about civil liberties violations, and as far as I'm aware they were never used. Unfortunately it wasn't the only intrusion on our liberties (wiretapping springs to mind).

But that stuff's not really relevant for this thread. Neither major political party is about to quash Americans' liberties.
I agree with this assessment.

But the thing I find funny (and ironic) about the left is the complete about face the party has taken as soon as it achieved power. The left is heavily comprised of "anti-establishment" types - even Obama, in his earlier years, somewhat subscribed to this philosophy.

Now that they've been put in power, can anyone here HONESTLY remember ANY political movement that has been MORE pro-establishment than the Democratic Party? This administration and congress has unashamedly moved in on the banks, the auto-industry, and now Obama doesn't "think" he'll have to raise taxes on the middle-class (quite different from a promise, I think).
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