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Old 06-16-09, 03:07 PM   #6
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@ Steamwake: I agree it's annoying to see a subject crop up that has been discussed many times before, but it is certainly appropriate for someone to start his own thread about it rather than let the hijacking continue.

I'm of two minds on the subject. I agree about using the symbols in public forums as sigs and such, but at the same time I have used a small waving American flag as well as the flag of my home state, Utah. But those are currently in public use, and not of much concern. And while I agree that the swastika can be offensive, would we be having this discussion over someone using the old Soviet hammer-and-sickle in his sig? I wouldn't complain about that.

I think it's better to avoid giving offense in the name of civility than to demand my right to show what I want, much the same as I've had the discussion concerning annoyingly loud music in the warehouses I've worked in. Sure, you have a right to listen to whatever you want, but aren't you denying me the right to do the same?

As for in-game, I like seeing the historic flag flying from the surface ships, and I've used the mod in the past that puts it on my u-boat. I also like seeing it in the office, since to me it would look odd without the correct flag there. But that's in my own private game, and doesn't affect anyone else.

As for Ducimus' (and apparently RR's) opinions on usage of those emblems being equated with steer manure, that is your opinion and you're welcome to it, but to state that my considering it to be more immersive is the same is a most unwelcome insult. Should I not watch some of my favorite movies (Das Boot, Battle of Britain and The Longest Day) because they also have the swastika in an historic context? Is that also BS?
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